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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:15 pm 
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Inspections. Last year we clarified the racer was required to prep car for dyno inspection not officials, now we want to put language in the rules that any inspections ordered the racer must present the car to officials and the racer perform the work, ie weighing a tire/rim for SI. This is coming from other classes were there is a problem as some regularly make excuses why they cant do inspections, ie why hub broke and i cant drive the car to scales etc.

I still don't get what this means. When you say that we are required to prep the car for dyno, what prep is there other than setting the tire pressures? And even if I set it, doesn't an official need to verify that I set it to spec?

Weighing a tire/rim for SI... we have a minimum wheel weight. Does this mean I have to take it off the car? Take the tire off the wheel? Bring it over to the scale and put it on?

If you want to inspect my connecting rod bearings to make sure they are stock, I have to take them out for you?

Not being a smartass (as I usually am!), I really don't understand what this means.

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rcr-si-051317 race abs mod m-2353-a discontinued, allow 10-14 race modules and gt500 mod

I assume that this means that any 05-10 car can use the M-2353-A, any of the 10-14 race modules, any of the 07-14 GT500 modules, or the stock module the car came with? Does this mean that no ABS with a weight break is no longer an option?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:24 pm 
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PS- Don't forget to ask for 19" wheels and a swap to Hoosiers, so your 15" brakes fit easier. :wink:

After the sky-is-falling reaction I got when I proposed 18" wheels so that you could fit the already-legal 14" brakes on a S197 and still fit within the track width limits... I'm glad I wasn't behind this one!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:51 pm 
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What this means is if an official calls you to an inspection you must present the car for said inspection, if you dont or choose not to you may be DQ'd. Also officlals do not work on cars, any work required to prove legality is done by the racer not and official. Basically in other classes there have been circumstances were racers simply dont show for inspections and we wish to make it clear in the rules no show = dq.

As for Si ABS, we are planning to allowing all 05-14 oem master, hyd unit, modules, plus gt500 hyd and modules along with discontinued race modules so people have options and the tech bulletin to allow no abs will be retracted.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:09 pm 
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blown5.0 wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen, RCRs for the 2018 rulebook have come to a close, here is a list of what was submitted.

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rcr-si-051717 dyno hood open
rcr-si-092517 racer required to present car ready for inspections




For rcr-si-051717 dyno hood open, SI i think we should still have a the hood closed since the 10s with the stock box has a tub to pull cold air from the outside and we are not allowed to added any tube to the CAI to pull in cold air to the 05-09 cars

rcr-si-092517 racer required to present car ready for inspections, like everybody else saying what dose this mean.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:21 pm 
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Jeff F wrote:
blown5.0 wrote:
Inspections. Last year we clarified the racer was required to prep car for dyno inspection not officials, now we want to put language in the rules that any inspections ordered the racer must present the car to officials and the racer perform the work, ie weighing a tire/rim for SI. This is coming from other classes were there is a problem as some regularly make excuses why they cant do inspections, ie why hub broke and i cant drive the car to scales etc.

I still don't get what this means. When you say that we are required to prep the car for dyno, what prep is there other than setting the tire pressures? And even if I set it, doesn't an official need to verify that I set it to spec?

Weighing a tire/rim for SI... we have a minimum wheel weight. Does this mean I have to take it off the car? Take the tire off the wheel? Bring it over to the scale and put it on?

If you want to inspect my connecting rod bearings to make sure they are stock, I have to take them out for you?

Not being a smartass (as I usually am!), I really don't understand what this means.

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rcr-si-051317 race abs mod m-2353-a discontinued, allow 10-14 race modules and gt500 mod

I assume that this means that any 05-10 car can use the M-2353-A, any of the 10-14 race modules, any of the 07-14 GT500 modules, or the stock module the car came with? Does this mean that no ABS with a weight break is no longer an option?


Fairly confident they simply mean YOU are doing any work on the car to comply with the inspection vs the official doing the work. IE: Last years nationals CMC had to weigh wheels and tires. We were required to remove the wheels (with tire) and submit them to be weighed. (the official wasn't going to remove the wheels for us)


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:12 am 
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I assume that this means that any 05-10 car can use the M-2353-A, any of the 10-14 race modules, any of the 07-14 GT500 modules, or the stock module the car came with? Does this mean that no ABS with a weight break is no longer an option?


Jeff,I hope the abs rule goes back to the way it was so it can be spec again.The problem with this rule with our class v/s AI is that we are already at max hp were AI normally detunes for the max or can add weight.And we run very little if any ballast and we cant gut anymore.So if I decide to remove the abs I can't make anymore power and I can only shed 40 lbs of ballast.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:37 am 
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Yes as stated above the plan is to retract the non abs tech bulletin and go back to all having abs with the parts you listed.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:33 pm 
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Al, If its possible I would like to speak with you on the phone about the hood open rule. I can disprove any theory with factual data about the temperatures our ( Coyote motors to be specific) cars see riding around the race track at speed compared to what would be seen on the dyno with the hood up (ambient). I would have to sit here for hours writing out all this stuff out and would rather just have a conversation about it. My director Wes has all my contact info, Thanks!


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