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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:36 am 
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Well its that time of the year again. In case you forgot below is the rule change request procedure and adjusted timeline.

Procedure:
1. Rule change requests (RCR’s) will be accepted all season from the release date of the previous years rule package until October 25th of the current year. Note rules will not be changed mid season unless absolutely necessary. Technical bulletins may be issued by Nasa as has been done in the past.
2. RCR’s must be submitted via email to the national director with a CC to your regional director. Please include which class & 'RCR' in the subject line.
3. RCR’s must contain the following: Name, region, contact info, class, rule number, recommended changes and reasoning.
4. RCR’s will be assigned a number for future reference, ie AIRCR-010113.
5. RCR’s will be prioritized and addressed by the regional and national directors all season.
6. RCR’s will be listed on the forums by October 25th for public comment.
7. New rules packages will be submitted to Nasa HQ for approval by November 1st.
8. New rules packages to be approved by Nasa HQ and released to the public by November 15th.

Timeline Commitment:

All season – RCRs submitted and addressed
Oct 25th – RCRs done. RCRs open for public comment.
Nov 1st – Rules pack submitted to Nasa HQ
Nov 15th – Rules approved and released


Thank you,

Albert Watson
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:42 am 
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Ladies and Gentlemen, RCRs for the 2018 rulebook have come to a close, here is a list of what was submitted.

spec iron
rcr-si-051317 race abs mod m-2353-a discontinued, allow 10-14 race modules and gt500 mod
rcr-si-051417 si frpp cold air kit no longer available, go to open cold air
rcr-si-051717 dyno hood open
rcr-si-092517 racer required to present car ready for inspections

american iron
rcr-ai-051717 dyno hood open
rcr-ai-090717 ai track width increase for older cars to keep up with +15 rear irs
rcr-ai-092517 racer required to present car ready for inspections
rcr-ai-092617 min weight all 2900#
rcr-ai-092717 turbo, intercooler, radiator must mount in engine comp
rcr-ai-093017 allow composite roof in ai
rcr-ai-100617 allow 15" rotors in Ai

american iron extreme
rcr-aix-091317 remove aix track width rule
rcr-aix-092517 racer required to present car ready for inspections
rcr-aix-092617 min weight all 2700#

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 6:11 am 
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blown5.0 wrote:

american iron
rcr-ai-051717 dyno hood open

Are we going to start racing with the hood open? :roll: I don't have hinges. So, once I pull my hood pins, it's open!

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rcr-ai-090717 ai track width increase for older cars to keep up with +15 rear irs

That'll make it easier on the tech guys, I'm already 2"+ under...

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rcr-ai-092517 racer required to present car ready for inspections

Which inspections?
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rcr-ai-092617 min weight all 2900#

Because you're worried about a 2700lb car when a 3500+lb car just won the East Coast Championship?

*mumbles* Yeah, let's change one of the only stable parts of the rules since the beginning...

Well, at least I'll be able to get more than 43% rear after I add 120lbs of lead to the RR.

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rcr-ai-092717 turbo, intercooler, radiator must mount in engine comp

Ambiguous. Would read better must mount forward of the firewall, to eliminate weenie protests.

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rcr-ai-093017 allow composite roof in ai

Hell, we've allowed everything else, might as well...

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rcr-ai-100617 allow 15" rotors in Ai

So... you need 15" rotors to stop your 3700lb car, but a guy running at 2700lbs, so he can keep 13" rotors, should be illegal. Right...

PS- Don't forget to ask for 19" wheels and a swap to Hoosiers, so your 15" brakes fit easier. :wink:

Well, there's my $.02.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:08 am 
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american iron

rcr-ai-051717 dyno hood open- not until we race with hoods off as stated above.

rcr-ai-090717 ai track width increase for older cars to keep up with +15 rear irs- I would like to see this or some variant of it, as in lower the 15s a bit and raise ours a bit. As long as we are equal or very close to it

rcr-ai-092517 racer required to present car ready for inspections- Can we get some more clarification on what this means?

rcr-ai-092617 min weight all 2900#- I have no opinion on this

rcr-ai-092717 turbo, intercooler, radiator must mount in engine comp- I am fine with this but would agree with above wording as to the firewall

rcr-ai-093017 allow composite roof in ai- I would say no to this to

rcr-ai-100617 allow 15" rotors in Ai- double no to this


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:33 am 
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Not that I race in American Iron, but you would have to modify to ballast rule also if this went through. Which would mean you could potentially have 500 lbs of ballast if your car was already gutted to 2700 and used 300 lbs of lead.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:35 am 
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Good stuff TJ,


nape wrote:
blown5.0 wrote:

american iron
rcr-ai-051717 dyno hood open

Are we going to start racing with the hood open? :roll: I don't have hinges. So, once I pull my hood pins, it's open!

Quote:
rcr-ai-090717 ai track width increase for older cars to keep up with +15 rear irs

That'll make it easier on the tech guys, I'm already 2"+ under...

Quote:
rcr-ai-092517 racer required to present car ready for inspections

Which inspections?
Quote:
rcr-ai-092617 min weight all 2900#

Because you're worried about a 2700lb car when a 3500+lb car just won the East Coast Championship?

*mumbles* Yeah, let's change one of the only stable parts of the rules since the beginning...

Well, at least I'll be able to get more than 43% rear after I add 120lbs of lead to the RR.

Quote:
rcr-ai-092717 turbo, intercooler, radiator must mount in engine comp

Ambiguous. Would read better must mount forward of the firewall, to eliminate weenie protests.

Quote:
rcr-ai-093017 allow composite roof in ai

Hell, we've allowed everything else, might as well...

Quote:
rcr-ai-100617 allow 15" rotors in Ai

So... you need 15" rotors to stop your 3700lb car, but a guy running at 2700lbs, so he can keep 13" rotors, should be illegal. Right...

PS- Don't forget to ask for 19" wheels and a swap to Hoosiers, so your 15" brakes fit easier. :wink:

Well, there's my $.02.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:59 pm 
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rcr-si-092517 racer required to present car ready for inspections

Can you elaborate on what exactly this means?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:35 am 
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Hood open for dyno. We are considering requiring the hood open for dyno test because heat soaked intake air can lower power, while on track cooler air at speed can increase power, so to better represent actual power we will dyno with hood open.

Inspections. Last year we clarified the racer was required to prep car for dyno inspection not officials, now we want to put language in the rules that any inspections ordered the racer must present the car to officials and the racer perform the work, ie weighing a tire/rim for SI. This is coming from other classes were there is a problem as some regularly make excuses why they cant do inspections, ie why hub broke and i cant drive the car to scales etc.

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blown5.0 wrote:
Hood open for dyno. We are considering requiring the hood open for dyno test because heat soaked intake air can lower power, while on track cooler air at speed can increase power, so to better represent actual power we will dyno with hood open.


Ram air and cowl induction at speed can increase horsepower as well. Are we going to tow the dyno around at 130MPH so that is well represented, too?

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Mid race dynos. :lol:

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