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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:43 am 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:48 am 
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Thanks John, that helped me decide which pigtail I needed.

So what you have is a Boss 302 2010 up ABS module and HCU.

The plug is different than the 07-09 GT500 and FR500S module. I assume the FR500s module bolts onto it but the connector doesn't seem like it would work.

I ordered the WPT-1356 (BU2Z-14S411-BBB) pigtail, I'll update what I find on the wiring. Even if I have to remove (4) wires and relocate one it's still better than a junk yard harness.

Thanks for the input John!

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:10 am 
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What is the difference in how they work, feel, intrusiveness, etc between these?
-2009 GT500 HCU and M-2353-A (FR500S module - 46pin connector)
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2010+ ABS MODULE WITH HYDRAULICS BOSS 302R/S HCU M-2353-BA (38pin connector)

and, can I just buy the M-2353-A (FR500S module - 46pin connector) and install it on the M-2353-BA HCU I have already?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:58 am 
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John,

From only what I have read the FR500S is calibrated to Grand Am Cup Series slicks.

The GT500 is calibrated to street tires.

I'll be running the ABS in the CAM-T class which is a 200 treadwear tire class.

In C-Prepared where I can run my Hoosier A7 slicks I can't use the ABS.

So based on that I am sticking with the GT500 module for now.

Hopefully some of the guys with actual experience with any of the units can provide some feedback.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 12:43 pm 
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My WPT-1356 Pigtail came in.

I took the plug apart, relocated wire 10 to 6 and removed wires 20, 24, 34 & 39 that are not required. Took all of 5 minutes.

If you go this route remember the plug is wired as C155 (from an E350) as shown in previous thread and needs to be modified to match C135 (2009 Mustang) as shown in previous thread above.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:03 pm 
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tcgrmt wrote:
...I'll be running the ABS in the CAM-T class which is a 200 treadwear tire class...


Are you aware that the 2016 CAM-T rules forbid ABS?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:35 pm 
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Correct, I meant CAM-C as of last years rules which listed cars only up to 73' for Mustang in CAM-T.

These new rules show I can run CAM-T if I am reading it right (w/o ABS). Says up to 89' but then lists 93' Mustang.

They added 200 lbs to CAM-C also.

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tcgrmt wrote:
John,
So based on that I am sticking with the GT500 module for now.
Hopefully some of the guys with actual experience with any of the units can provide some feedback.


I started with the FR module, but have changed back to the GT500 module due to trail braking oversteer that I couldn't dial out with rear pad compounds (tried four different ones).
I'm much happier with the predictability of the GT500 module. It's much less "squirmy" under hard braking and easier to save if you go too deep since you don't have the trail braking issue to deal with.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 1:16 pm 
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OK so after looking at wiring up the 2010+ BOSS302R/S M-2353-ba module, it looks like its not possible to install stand-alone as it requires steering angle, yaw sensors, etc through RCM CAN Bus (pin 8 and pin 9) on the C135 connector (see pdf here on page 3: https://fordperformanceracingparts.com/download/boss302spdfs/2014/electric/M-14290-M302C,%20Forward%20Lamp%20w%20ABS%20-%20Rev3%20(2012.7.15).pdf)

If anyone needs M-2353-BA and pigtail its up for sale :)

So, I purchased Mustang GT500 HCU and M-2353-A FR500S module from Ebay, and will be installing it as soon as it comes in. Sorry for the confusions I was assuming newer models were also stand-alone install-able but that does not seem its the case.

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