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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:03 pm 
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I guess so, a Z06 Carbon with a factory splitter and factory spoiler can run approx 25 more HP than a normal Z06 that has added those parts....even though they are GM parts.

And how does a 500 hp Z06 carbon fit into ST3?

Also, the new rules will probably not allow a rear spoiler or a rear wing using this modification factor

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 5:50 am 
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Greg G. wrote:
davidfarmer wrote:
I guess so, a Z06 Carbon with a factory splitter and factory spoiler can run approx 25 more HP than a normal Z06 that has added those parts....even though they are GM parts.

And how does a 500 hp Z06 carbon fit into ST3?

Also, the new rules will probably not allow a rear spoiler or a rear wing using this modification factor



Can the 500hp Z06 carbon not be detuned/choked back to 350hp?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 6:10 am 
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Greg G. wrote:
davidfarmer wrote:
I guess so, a Z06 Carbon with a factory splitter and factory spoiler can run approx 25 more HP than a normal Z06 that has added those parts....even though they are GM parts.

And how does a 500 hp Z06 carbon fit into ST3?

Also, the new rules will probably not allow a rear spoiler or a rear wing using this modification factor


I think a better question would be where in the rules does it say that a 505 hp Z06 Carbon can't fit into ST3? Or a 638 hp ZR1 for that matter? I can't find it anywhere.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 6:18 am 
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Truck LS are cheap, easy, etc... no need to choke the big engines that much unless you just want to. And if you have to have the nice car's VIN to run the parts as OEM (need not be C7Z either, C7 GS has alot of nice OEM aero too, C6Z or C6 GS, etc.), then that's what you have to do.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 4:27 pm 
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my thoughts only

I think only 4 and 6 cyl engines should be allowed in st3 only, no detuning 500 hp++++ engines. if a car makes that kind of hp and TORQUE they should be in st2 or st1.
example just went to race in Kentucky there were only 1 su 1 st1 2 st2 and lots of st3 with the top running st3 a bmw m3 v8.
there need's be more balance in classes just push the v8 into st1 or st2 problem solved.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:29 am 
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Eh, then you'd have to outlaw supercharged v6's and turbocharged I4's. Anybody can make power AND torque a 100 different ways. If you're trying to make it more humble then mandate a manual tranny only, no paddle, PDK's, seq shifters or any of the fancy stuff. As I believe the car you're referring to has that.

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haase is referring to Premo's M3 V8 ST3 car, its a manual trans and not a dog or flappy paddle. Though I am willing to bet it has a whole host of other drivers aids that make it far faster to drive for a novice that aren't counted towards modification points.

The car has been post raced dyno'd multiple times and never a DQ. It is detuned so willing to bet its tuned to take full advantage of the AVG HP calculator.


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Fly by wire cars can easily be defined for st3 and yes st4. And they will pull to redline and make 600 ft-lb of torque down low. Unless they are specifically outlined, then as originally designed, they are legal.

You could also just add a few thousand pounds of lead but that would be horrible tondrive

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My next upgrade.....a new VIN :)

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farberio wrote:
The car has been post raced dyno'd multiple times and never a DQ. It is detuned so willing to bet its tuned to take full advantage of the AVG HP calculator.


Show me a podium car that ISN'T optimized to the rules and I will show you a region with little real competition.

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