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Any seat without tag or expired FIA tag needs a back brace.

Any seat with 8855-1999 FIA tag within expiration date does not need backbrace.

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 Post subject: Re: Bucket seat question
PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:13 pm 
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Resurrecting this thread here.

I have a question about when a seat actually expires if it does not specifically say so. I have two Sparco Pro 2000 seats, both are FIA 8855-1999, one was manufactured March of 2011 and the other was manufactured in March of 2012. Neither state a specific expiration date. I race in GTS2.

The rules state: 15.16.1 Racing Seat
Some series require an approved racing seat. It is strongly recommend that a racing seat be installed in all vehicles. A racing seat is of solid design; not “tube and cloth” designs commonly found in passenger cars. It can be very difficult to properly brace a “tube and cloth” type seat and the vehicle may not pass technical inspection. Additionally, the cloth or material on a “stock” seat is typically not flame retardant. Therefore, the proper installation of a racing seat is strongly recommended.

I read through the most up to date GTS rules and it does not address seats. I've heard mention of a back brace needed if the seats are expired, but again mine don't state expiration.

Thanks for your help.


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 Post subject: Re: Bucket seat question
PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:11 am 
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My understanding is that you have five years from date of manufacture on FIA seats unless you decide to add a back brace.

Is it five years from the month? Or is it five years from the year? i.e. seat manufactured in 3/2012 is good until 3/2017? Or is it good through the end of 2017?


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 Post subject: Re: Bucket seat question
PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:47 am 
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Club Codes & Regulations wrote:
15.6.21 Seat Back Support
A seatback support must be made to hold the seatback from failing in the event of a crash. A plate shall be
used to distribute the load. No bolts, corners, or sharp objects should be placed in such a manner that could
lead to a possible puncture of the driver in a high impact crash. Seat back support need not be attached to the
seat itself. Proper design and installation is crucial to safety and it is recommended that the driver employ the
services of a professional race car builder for this, as well as all other vehicle safety items. An exception may
be made for those seats homologated to, and mounted in accordance with, FIA 8855-1999 or 8862-2009
standards. Those seats that qualify for the aforementioned exception must conform to the entire FIA 8855-1999
or 8862-2009 set of regulations, as applicable. This includes a mandatory seat replacement, or use of a seat
back brace, for any seat more than five (5) years old (8855-1999) or more than ten (10) years old (8862-2009).
Please reference the FIA regulations
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The way I read that is the seat you have is good for 5 years from date of manufacture. So if it was made 3/12 after 3/17 you will need to add a seat back brace or replace it.

If the GTS rules do not have information about the seat you need to check the CCR


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 Post subject: Re: Bucket seat question
PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:41 pm 
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The CCRs don't specifically state it either. At least not that I'm finding.


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 Post subject: Re: Bucket seat question
PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:52 pm 
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Never mind. After some searching on FIA's site, I came across the actual document that specifically states the regulation...

http://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/ ... seat_0.pdf

Section 7. Seat Life
"The usable life of an FIA homologated seat will be 5 years from the year of manufacture. For example, a seat manufactured on 1 January 2014 will be “Not valid after 2019”; likewise, a seat manufactured on 31 December 2014 will be “Not valid after 2019”.

An extension of up to 2 further years may be authorised where the seat has been returned to the manufacturer for re-validation. Extensions will be indicated by an additional label affixed to the seat identifying the date on which the seat eligibility ceases, and validated by the manufacturer's quality inspection stamp."


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 Post subject: Re: Bucket seat question
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mnm3 wrote:
The CCRs don't specifically state it either. At least not that I'm finding.

I quoted the ccr that states what FIA certification lasts for how long. It stated 5 years or 10 years from the date of mfg depending on the FIA # on the seat.


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 Post subject: Re: Bucket seat question
PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:37 pm 
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BrianZ wrote:
mnm3 wrote:
The CCRs don't specifically state it either. At least not that I'm finding.

I quoted the ccr that states what FIA certification lasts for how long. It stated 5 years or 10 years from the date of mfg depending on the FIA # on the seat.


You're right, I was looking at the racing seat section 15.16.1 as well, but the CCRs still don't specify whether its based off of calendar year or month. So I assume they would refer to the actual FIA regs for that ruling...


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