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 Post subject: Self-tech for HPDE?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:44 pm 
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Hello,

I am having a difficult time determining if self-tech is allowed for HPDE. I've run in NASA for a number of years up in the PacNW. NASA tech stations were abundant and, living close to Portland International Raceway, they were very easy to access. I am now in the NorCal region and tech stations are relatively scarce and far (traffic is a serious issue here). Curious if self-tech is acceptable.

I run in HPDE 3 with a 2012 Cayman R with some suspension mods, brake pads and tires, harness, otherwise stock.

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 Post subject: Re: Self-tech for HPDE?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:42 pm 
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I think that self tech is acceptable in all regions. I know it is in the Southeast, Mid-Atlantic, and North East. Never run out West so I can't speak specifically for them.

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 Post subject: Re: Self-tech for HPDE?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:20 pm 
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I haven't driven with Nasa for a few years, but I believe that you might be able to self tech your car. I suggest you contact Scott Smith at scott@drivenasa.com and Jerry Kunzman at jerry@drivenasa.com> to be sure (hopefully those e-mail addresses are still in use/correct).

Anyway, looking at the Nasa Norcal website https://nasanorcal.com/?/site/section_schedule/, there are some HPDE Tech Shops and Inspection form links listed. The link https://nasanorcal.com/wp-content/uploa ... ptance.pdf has an Option E on page 3, and it mentions form
https://nasa-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/do ... e_tech.pdf, so to me, it looks like you might be able to self tech your car if it meets those requirements, but I suggest you e-mail Scott and Jerry to make sure. Good luck and have fun!! - Jim

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 Post subject: Re: Self-tech for HPDE?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:00 pm 
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djm68 wrote:
Hello,

I am having a difficult time determining if self-tech is allowed for HPDE. I've run in NASA for a number of years up in the PacNW. NASA tech stations were abundant and, living close to Portland International Raceway, they were very easy to access. I am now in the NorCal region and tech stations are relatively scarce and far (traffic is a serious issue here). Curious if self-tech is acceptable.

I run in HPDE 3 with a 2012 Cayman R with some suspension mods, brake pads and tires, harness, otherwise stock.

Thanks,
DJM


Hey, just decided to sign up even though I've been driving with NASA NE since 2010, but up to 2017 (last time I went), self inspection was/(probably still is) acceptable.


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 Post subject: Re: Self-tech for HPDE?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:09 pm 
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Man... I have gotten some seriously confusing info on self-teching from the NorCal region.

I've been told that you can't self-tech a car that's 10 years or older. My first time with NASA, I got a shop to tech my car; no problem. My second time, my instructor (I was in group 1) told me ahead of time that it was fine if my car wasn't moded, so I did a self-tech (my E46 was bone-stock at the time; it now has a few suspension mods, but that's it). In pre-grid, the guy grabbing tech forms nearly crapped himself and my instructor calmed him down by saying he inspected my car that day and it was fine.

Since then, I've always got my car teched at a shop. I've been going to a shop that is owned by a guy who is also a NASA driver, and he himself is a tech inspector FOR NASA. The second time I brought my car in, he asked me why I was doing this and I told him about my experience. He said "I'm an inspector FOR NASA and I've never heard of this. You should be able to inspect your own car."

So who knows... I really wish there was some clarity on this, especially from Scott, in some kind of bulletin or rules update or SOMETHING so that this issue doesn't keep popping up.

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 Post subject: Re: Self-tech for HPDE?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:43 am 
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In the Great Lakes Region, HPDE uses the HPDE /SCHOOL TECHNICAL INSPECTION FORM, which is completed by the driver of the car. This form is then presented to a NASA Tech Inspector at the event, usually early in the morning before meetings / sessions begin (times. location etc. listed in the Event Schedule). Once the NASA Tech Inspector inspects your car and signs off on the form, you are given a sticker that goes on the windshield, confirming your car has passed Tech for that weekend event. In addition, for TT drivers, we're allowed Annual Tech Inspections and those can be done by an authorized NASA Tech Shop or at the Event by the NASA Tech Team. If done by an authorized shop, the completed form, ANNUAL RACE CAR / TT CAR TECHNICAL INSPECTION FORM, is presented to the Chief Steward or his assigned associate, at the event, for verification and issuance of the Annual Tech Sticker.
That's how I've done it in the past 10 years.


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 Post subject: Re: Self-tech for HPDE?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:39 pm 
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Unfortunately, that's not at all how it's been done for the last 3-4 years in NorCal region. At least I've never done that, nor heard of anybody doing it.

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 Post subject: Re: Self-tech for HPDE?
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427R wrote:
In the Great Lakes Region, HPDE uses the HPDE /SCHOOL TECHNICAL INSPECTION FORM, which is completed by the driver of the car. This form is then presented to a NASA Tech Inspector at the event, usually early in the morning before meetings / sessions begin (times. location etc. listed in the Event Schedule). Once the NASA Tech Inspector inspects your car and signs off on the form, you are given a sticker that goes on the windshield, confirming your car has passed Tech for that weekend event. In addition, for TT drivers, we're allowed Annual Tech Inspections and those can be done by an authorized NASA Tech Shop or at the Event by the NASA Tech Team. If done by an authorized shop, the completed form, ANNUAL RACE CAR / TT CAR TECHNICAL INSPECTION FORM, is presented to the Chief Steward or his assigned associate, at the event, for verification and issuance of the Annual Tech Sticker.
That's how I've done it in the past 10 years.


That is the way it is in the SouthEast too.

The apparent fact that it isn't that way in NorCal is one of those things that bothers me quite a bit. What really is the point of having a national organization if I can't take my car that I run regularly in one region and not be able to do the same thing in another region?

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 Post subject: Re: Self-tech for HPDE?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:19 am 
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Done same way in Texas, Central, Northeast and Mid-Atlantic

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Clavette wrote:
Done same way in Texas, Central, Northeast and Mid-Atlantic


So that makes me wonder if NorCal should really be a part of NASA

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